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		<title>By: Predicament of HECs Loans: Interest or Not? &#171; Pages of an Ilm Seeker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Predicament of HECs Loans: Interest or Not? &#171; Pages of an Ilm Seeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Nov 2010 07:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Shariah has prohibited or stipulated rigorous conditions upon a transaction that may have any elements of oppression within them. It is for this reason that dealing with transactions containing riba is strictly prohibited by the Shariah as it is a direct oppression. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Muhammad Ramzna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Muhammad Ramzna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 09:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please make the part of this article in your next issue for the benefits of all of us. I have taken this from the below mentioned link. 

This article comes from IslamBank.Community:: Easing the Burden on Humanity :: Home of Gen M - The Interest-Free Generation
http://tyo.ca/islambank.community/

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Riba (a curse)
Date Sunday, October 27 @ 12:07:46 
Topic Debtors Anonymous

Dear Sir,

I am sending you my personal experience with Riba problem. You can edit and can publish for information of others but without mentioning my name, please.

What happened to me is a lesson to others.

I am a lower middle class Muslim man residing in a Muslim state. I have no my own house nor I have any business or any other source of income except my monthly fixed salary. My family consists on my wife, a daughter and 3-son (1-infant and 2-school going). My daughter is in 7-grade school whereas 2-sons are in grade 5 and 1. I am living in a rented house. I am working with a private firm in administration. Prior to joining the private service, I was office assistant in a government department from where I was compulsory retired on medical grounds. As I am a chronic psoriasis patient with 95% body patched with psoriasis, regularly and continuously itching, irritating, burning and bleeding. This is not curable. Only preventive medication is possible which is too much costly &amp; expensive. I have to look after my family being single source of earning.

For treatment and for the education of my children I used credit cards with all limits to overcome my financial debt. After that, I un-heartedly got a personal loan from a local bank which was on a very high interest rate (riba rate). From that very first day my problem starts. I can say my mistake started giving me the reward in shape of increasing my financial liabilities. In the first month I felt ease but real problem started from the second month when I started paying back the installments. When I took payable money from my salary (which was already low), there left hardly money for 1-week leaving nothing for house-rent, school fee and utility bills.

Resultantly, I started borrowing from relatives and friends and increased another liability. But there was nothing else to me to run the kitchen. During this period my children some time could not took lunch and some nights slept without dinner. 

I think this is all due to my mistakes and ignorance from Quran and Islamic teachings. I am a white collar man could not tell real problems to my relatives and friends. I tried to get interest Free Loan (original Loan returnable on availability) but could not succeed. Now I am living in a very worst life having number of financial liabilities which is about 4000 US Dollars. This is all due to Riba and my wrong planning but there is cry to over split milk.

However, I have decided not to go for Riba business in future what so ever reasons thereof. I would like to ask and advise my fellow brothers and sisters not to go for Interest based (Riba) business especially the bank loans because it is a curse. You can never be out of it like me. You will lose your all comforts and will live in stress all the time.

You will not only face problems in this world but after-world on the Day of Judgment.

At the end I would like to request you and my fellow brothers and sisters to kindly help me out with some financial assistance out of your pious earnings so I can come out of my financial crises and able to smoothly educate my daughter and 3-son and payback all my debts.

Those who wish to help me out, can contact to me through IslamBank.Com or directly mail me (e-mail: mr10458@hotmail.com) for more details and verifications.

With regards

Sincerely,

[Name Withheld at The Request of IslamBank.Community Member.]

I found it difficult to even attempt editing this Muslim Man&#039;s detailed description of the living Hell his family experiencing. Beyond the italics and boldface text formatting, the story is posted as it was submitted.

If you wish to communicate with the brother whose story this is, please email him directly at his email listed at the end of the story or simply post a comment to this story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please make the part of this article in your next issue for the benefits of all of us. I have taken this from the below mentioned link. </p>
<p>This article comes from IslamBank.Community:: Easing the Burden on Humanity :: Home of Gen M &#8211; The Interest-Free Generation<br />
<a href="http://tyo.ca/islambank.community/" rel="nofollow">http://tyo.ca/islambank.community/</a></p>
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<p>Riba (a curse)<br />
Date Sunday, October 27 @ 12:07:46<br />
Topic Debtors Anonymous</p>
<p>Dear Sir,</p>
<p>I am sending you my personal experience with Riba problem. You can edit and can publish for information of others but without mentioning my name, please.</p>
<p>What happened to me is a lesson to others.</p>
<p>I am a lower middle class Muslim man residing in a Muslim state. I have no my own house nor I have any business or any other source of income except my monthly fixed salary. My family consists on my wife, a daughter and 3-son (1-infant and 2-school going). My daughter is in 7-grade school whereas 2-sons are in grade 5 and 1. I am living in a rented house. I am working with a private firm in administration. Prior to joining the private service, I was office assistant in a government department from where I was compulsory retired on medical grounds. As I am a chronic psoriasis patient with 95% body patched with psoriasis, regularly and continuously itching, irritating, burning and bleeding. This is not curable. Only preventive medication is possible which is too much costly &amp; expensive. I have to look after my family being single source of earning.</p>
<p>For treatment and for the education of my children I used credit cards with all limits to overcome my financial debt. After that, I un-heartedly got a personal loan from a local bank which was on a very high interest rate (riba rate). From that very first day my problem starts. I can say my mistake started giving me the reward in shape of increasing my financial liabilities. In the first month I felt ease but real problem started from the second month when I started paying back the installments. When I took payable money from my salary (which was already low), there left hardly money for 1-week leaving nothing for house-rent, school fee and utility bills.</p>
<p>Resultantly, I started borrowing from relatives and friends and increased another liability. But there was nothing else to me to run the kitchen. During this period my children some time could not took lunch and some nights slept without dinner. </p>
<p>I think this is all due to my mistakes and ignorance from Quran and Islamic teachings. I am a white collar man could not tell real problems to my relatives and friends. I tried to get interest Free Loan (original Loan returnable on availability) but could not succeed. Now I am living in a very worst life having number of financial liabilities which is about 4000 US Dollars. This is all due to Riba and my wrong planning but there is cry to over split milk.</p>
<p>However, I have decided not to go for Riba business in future what so ever reasons thereof. I would like to ask and advise my fellow brothers and sisters not to go for Interest based (Riba) business especially the bank loans because it is a curse. You can never be out of it like me. You will lose your all comforts and will live in stress all the time.</p>
<p>You will not only face problems in this world but after-world on the Day of Judgment.</p>
<p>At the end I would like to request you and my fellow brothers and sisters to kindly help me out with some financial assistance out of your pious earnings so I can come out of my financial crises and able to smoothly educate my daughter and 3-son and payback all my debts.</p>
<p>Those who wish to help me out, can contact to me through IslamBank.Com or directly mail me (e-mail: <a href="mailto:mr10458@hotmail.com">mr10458@hotmail.com</a>) for more details and verifications.</p>
<p>With regards</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>[Name Withheld at The Request of IslamBank.Community Member.]</p>
<p>I found it difficult to even attempt editing this Muslim Man&#8217;s detailed description of the living Hell his family experiencing. Beyond the italics and boldface text formatting, the story is posted as it was submitted.</p>
<p>If you wish to communicate with the brother whose story this is, please email him directly at his email listed at the end of the story or simply post a comment to this story.</p>
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		<title>By: Ilm Seeker</title>
		<link>http://www.ilmfruits.com/the-evils-of-interest/comment-page-1#comment-81189</link>
		<dc:creator>Ilm Seeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Muhammad Fahad, I&#039;m not sure if approaching them about riba/usury is the best approach. The most important thing is tawheed and a solid belief in Allah, and this should be what we call to, as it is what all the anbiyyah called to when Allah gave them the message.

So worry about that first, and insha&#039;Allah riba becomes easy to take care of once that base is established.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Muhammad Fahad, I&#8217;m not sure if approaching them about riba/usury is the best approach. The most important thing is tawheed and a solid belief in Allah, and this should be what we call to, as it is what all the anbiyyah called to when Allah gave them the message.</p>
<p>So worry about that first, and insha&#8217;Allah riba becomes easy to take care of once that base is established.</p>
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		<title>By: Muhammad Fahad</title>
		<link>http://www.ilmfruits.com/the-evils-of-interest/comment-page-1#comment-81171</link>
		<dc:creator>Muhammad Fahad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 17:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Assalam  O alikum, Alhamdolilaah Allah Subhanahuwataalahu Has protected me from indulging in interest/usury, I do not own any property I work in a company and i must say that the amount i earn though it looks insufficient but it is adequate and i live the entire month beautifully with honor supporting my entire family. However, i have many Non-Muslim friends and they all have a good salary in comparison with me, but due to their indulgence in riba and usury they are always troubled both financially and health wise. My question is how should i approach them explaining that riba/usury is not good. Please Help!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assalam  O alikum, Alhamdolilaah Allah Subhanahuwataalahu Has protected me from indulging in interest/usury, I do not own any property I work in a company and i must say that the amount i earn though it looks insufficient but it is adequate and i live the entire month beautifully with honor supporting my entire family. However, i have many Non-Muslim friends and they all have a good salary in comparison with me, but due to their indulgence in riba and usury they are always troubled both financially and health wise. My question is how should i approach them explaining that riba/usury is not good. Please Help!</p>
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		<title>By: Ilm Seeker</title>
		<link>http://www.ilmfruits.com/the-evils-of-interest/comment-page-1#comment-73924</link>
		<dc:creator>Ilm Seeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Joe oops, I mixed up &quot;low&quot; and &quot;high,&quot; my bad.

Bartering is allowed with some restrictions. It depends. Again, as I mentioned, you really need to take an Islamic Finance class if you want to understand.

The case here of dates-for-dates is the same species, same category of items being traded; the two  conditions in this transaction is that it&#039;s done &lt;strong&gt;hand to hand&lt;/strong&gt; (in one sitting), and &lt;strong&gt;same quantity for same quantity&lt;/strong&gt;.

This is not the same as trading dates for watermelons, or trading cash for dates.  Those transactions have different requirements and conditions on them in order to avoid riba.

If you&#039;re interested, drop me an email at ilmfruits@ilmfruits.com and we can follow up on this discussion in excruiciating detail.

(P.S. the proof for the above is the hadith: gold for gold, silver for silver, dates for dates, ...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Joe oops, I mixed up &#8220;low&#8221; and &#8220;high,&#8221; my bad.</p>
<p>Bartering is allowed with some restrictions. It depends. Again, as I mentioned, you really need to take an Islamic Finance class if you want to understand.</p>
<p>The case here of dates-for-dates is the same species, same category of items being traded; the two  conditions in this transaction is that it&#8217;s done <strong>hand to hand</strong> (in one sitting), and <strong>same quantity for same quantity</strong>.</p>
<p>This is not the same as trading dates for watermelons, or trading cash for dates.  Those transactions have different requirements and conditions on them in order to avoid riba.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re interested, drop me an email at <a href="mailto:ilmfruits@ilmfruits.com">ilmfruits@ilmfruits.com</a> and we can follow up on this discussion in excruiciating detail.</p>
<p>(P.S. the proof for the above is the hadith: gold for gold, silver for silver, dates for dates, &#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Good old Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.ilmfruits.com/the-evils-of-interest/comment-page-1#comment-73920</link>
		<dc:creator>Good old Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now I&#039;m confused.  The hadith says:
 “I had some inferior type of dates and exchanged two Sas of it for one Sa of Barni dates in order to give it to the Prophet (PBUH); to eat.”

But you are saying the opposite.

So battering is allowed as long as the traded items are different?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I&#8217;m confused.  The hadith says:<br />
 “I had some inferior type of dates and exchanged two Sas of it for one Sa of Barni dates in order to give it to the Prophet (PBUH); to eat.”</p>
<p>But you are saying the opposite.</p>
<p>So battering is allowed as long as the traded items are different?</p>
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		<title>By: Ilm Seeker</title>
		<link>http://www.ilmfruits.com/the-evils-of-interest/comment-page-1#comment-73844</link>
		<dc:creator>Ilm Seeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Joe, trading dates is not interest; the word commonly translated as &quot;interest&quot; is &quot;ribaa&quot; (ربى) in Arabic. The most common form of ribaa in our times is interest. 

However, to be precise: pretty much all of interest is ribaa, and ribaa contains things other than interest--like trading 2kg of &lt;strong&gt;low-quality&lt;/strong&gt; dates for 1kg of &lt;strong&gt;high-quality&lt;/strong&gt; dates. For more details, take a class on Islamic finance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Joe, trading dates is not interest; the word commonly translated as &#8220;interest&#8221; is &#8220;ribaa&#8221; (ربى) in Arabic. The most common form of ribaa in our times is interest. </p>
<p>However, to be precise: pretty much all of interest is ribaa, and ribaa contains things other than interest&#8211;like trading 2kg of <strong>low-quality</strong> dates for 1kg of <strong>high-quality</strong> dates. For more details, take a class on Islamic finance.</p>
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		<title>By: Good old Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.ilmfruits.com/the-evils-of-interest/comment-page-1#comment-73366</link>
		<dc:creator>Good old Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your reply.
How is trading dates interest?  Isn&#039;t this battering?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your reply.<br />
How is trading dates interest?  Isn&#8217;t this battering?</p>
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		<title>By: Ilm Seeker</title>
		<link>http://www.ilmfruits.com/the-evils-of-interest/comment-page-1#comment-73345</link>
		<dc:creator>Ilm Seeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Joe, the difference is that Allah has permitted trade, business, buying/selling, bartering; but He has forbidden interest.

Some of the scholars have mentioned that one of the wisdoms is with respect to monopolies--a person who only ever exchanges dates for dates, eventually forms a monopoly of high-quality dates; forcing him to deal with money breaks that, utterly and completely, from happening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Joe, the difference is that Allah has permitted trade, business, buying/selling, bartering; but He has forbidden interest.</p>
<p>Some of the scholars have mentioned that one of the wisdoms is with respect to monopolies&#8211;a person who only ever exchanges dates for dates, eventually forms a monopoly of high-quality dates; forcing him to deal with money breaks that, utterly and completely, from happening.</p>
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		<title>By: Good old Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Good old Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 02:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is difference between exchaging two low quality dates for one good quality and selling the low quality dates to buy high quality dates?  If the high quality dates truly are twice as expensive, there should be no difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is difference between exchaging two low quality dates for one good quality and selling the low quality dates to buy high quality dates?  If the high quality dates truly are twice as expensive, there should be no difference.</p>
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