Comments on: What is a Mursal Hadith?

By: Ilm Seeker

Ilm Seeker — Tue, 24 Jan 2012 12:21:34 +0000

@Qwerty as mentioned in the post, a mursal hadith is a da’eef hadith (weak) and can’t be used.

But you mention seerah specifically. Some scholars of seerah do permit the use of weak ahadith, just like some scholars permit using them in cases where they agree with well-known principles of Islam.

Wallahu a’lam. My teachers always said “we didn’t learn and implement all the authentic hadith yet, let’s do that first before we start looking at the weak ones!”

By: Qwerty

Qwerty — Tue, 24 Jan 2012 03:10:41 +0000

@Ilm Seeker, what is the ruling on mursal ahadith, when it comes to seerah?

By: Ilm Seeker

Ilm Seeker — Tue, 18 Oct 2011 23:21:56 +0000

@Hamidullah I am not well versed with Imam Malik (rahimahullah)’s Muwwata specifically. Saheeh Al-Bukhari and Saheeh Al-Muslim are the two collections of ahadith that have no da’eef ahadith in them; pretty much every other collection has some da’eef ahadith mixed in.

There is also a difference between mursal (a hadith of rasulullah, salallahu alayhi wa sallam, which does not have a chain connecting to him from a sahaba) and athaar (statements of the companions, aka hadith of companions). I believe you are referring tot he latter in Imam Malik’s collection.

Wallahu a’lam.

By: Hamidullah

Hamidullah — Tue, 18 Oct 2011 15:31:15 +0000

Allah knows best. When we read the Muwwatta of Imam Malik, many of the hadeeth would be mursal. The Muwwatta of Imam malik is considered to be one of the more authentic collections of hadith. Since this is the case, a hadeeth collection with a number of da’eef( as you mentioned above mursal has the ruling of da’eef) could not be considered one of the more authentic collections. Maybe there needs to be some clarity on your statement that they are equivalent to da’eef hadith.

By: Abdullah

Abdullah — Sun, 01 Mar 2009 02:27:10 +0000

WallauAllam, but according to my sheikh, according to the 3 imams (all except imam shafi rahimullah), mursal hadiths are considered authentic but according to the majority of hadith scholars, its considered daeef. Imam Shafi allows it to be authentic based on few conditions..

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